Dario Amodei joins John Collison to talk about Anthropic's growth to almost $5 billion in ARR, how AI models show capitalistic impulses, predictions for an agentic future, the economics of model businesses, and the 19th-century concept of vitalism.00:00 Intro00:50 Working with your sibling01:43 Building Anthropic with 7 cofounders02:52 ~$5 billion in ARR and vertical applications of products07:18 Developing a platform-first company10:08 Working with the DoD11:11 Proving skeptics wrong about reve...